miercuri, 10 februarie 2010

Trib

Un trib e forma naturala in care oamenii liberi se "organizeaza". Mai jos, niste lucruri foarte interesante, se pare ca toata istoria unui trib + ceva asemanator "animismului" apare de la sine. Desigur despre toate astea ni se spune ca "e o faza normala in timpul cresterii". Dar nu poate continua, hrana e inchisa, "civilizatia" urmeaza.

In tot ce scrie mai jos pe Wikipedia, cine a scris uita ceva. "Cultura" nu inseamna numai "obiceiuri" si alte asemenea. Uita sa spuna ca exista o "cultura" de a nu-i spune altuia ce sa faca. Asa ceva distruge insasi "societatea" care s-a format. Piratii.

Children's street culture

"Children's street culture refers to the cumulative culture created by young children. Collectively, this body of knowledge is passed down from one generation of urban children to the next, and can also be passed between different groups of children (e.g. in the form of crazes, but also in intergenerational mixing). It is most common in children between the ages of seven and twelve. It is strongest in urban working class industrial districts where children are traditionally free to "play out" in the streets for long periods without supervision.

Children's street culture is invented and largely sustained by children themselves, although it may come to incorporate fragments of media culture and toys in its activities. It is not to be confused with the commercial media-culture produced for children (e.g., comics, television, mass-produced toys, and clothing), although it may overlap.
Young children's street culture usually takes place on quiet backstreets and pavements, and along routes that venture out into local parks, playgrounds, scrub and wasteland, and to local shops. It can often incorporate many found and scavenged materials such as old car seats, tyres, planks, bricks, etc. Sometimes found materials will be combined to create objects (e.g. making guys for Bonfire Night — see Beck 1984). Play will often incorporate crazes (sometimes incorporating seasonal elements that are freely collected, such as conkers, snowballs, sycamore seeds). It also imposes imaginative status on certain sections of the urban realm (local buildings, kerbs, street objects, road layouts, etc). In summer children may use scavenged materials to create a temporary and semi-hidden 'den' or 'hideout' or 'HQ' in a marginal area near their homes, that serves as an informal meeting and relaxation place during the summer (see: Sobel, 2001). An urban area that looks faceless or neglected to an adult may have deep 'spirit of place' meanings in children's street culture.

Although it varies from place to place, research shows that it appears to share many commonalities across many cultures. "

"Many informal groups of small children will develop some level of superstitious beliefs about their local area. For instance:- they will believe that there are certain places that are 'unlucky' to step on (e.g.: certain large cracks in a sidewalk) or touch (e.g.: gateposts of a certain colour), or that an old woman is a 'witch', or that an abandoned house is 'haunted'. But in some extreme circumstances a consistent mythos may emerge among young children, and across a large area. One example dates from 1997, The Miami New Times published Lynda Edwards' report "Myths Over Miami", which describes a huge consistent mythology spreading among young homeless children in the American South. The story has been picked up and reprinted many times on internet blogs and websites."
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Sunt locuri unde nu exista conditii pentru obtinerea celor de baza - participand in sistemul masinii, atunci aceste triburi incipiente formeaza in timp bandele, vedeti Brazilia. Nici ei nu au acces direct la hrana, asa ca difera in obiceiuri fata de triburile din trecut. Contin elemente ale masinii.

Triburile sunt bune - ca organizatie pentru oamenii care participa, dar e posibil ca civilizatia sa fie inevitabila. Astfel - chiar daca am uita brusc civilizatia - nu sunt sigur ca nu ar apare din nou. Cred ca avem nevoie de o noua cultura "tribala" pentru toti, si baza pentru existenta ei.
Civilizatia poate apare prin razboi intre triburi, un trib mai puternic cucereste tot, etc... Raman la "nu stiu" in privinta civilizatiei inevitabile. Pentru ca tribul ala sa fie mai puternic - nu are nevoie numai de agricultura, are nevoie de clase sociale, bani, proprietate. Cum apar conceptele astea ? Care de fapt desfiinteaza "tribul" in care apar, si ala e inceputul "civilizatiei" nu ideea de razboi intre triburi.

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Mark Twain:

"There you see the hand of that awful power, the Roman Catholic Church . In two or three little centuries it had converted a nation of men to a nation of worms. Before the day of the Church's supremacy in the world, men were men, and held their heads up, and had a man's pride and spirit and independence; and what of greatness and position a person got, he got mainly by achievement, not by birth. But then the Church came to the front, with an axe to grind; and she was wise, subtle, and knew more than one way to skin a cat--or a nation; she invented "divine right of kings," and propped it all around, brick by brick, with the Beatitudes-- wrenching them from their good purpose to make them fortify an evil one; she preached (to the commoner) humility, obedience to superiors, the beauty of self-sacrifice; she preached (to the commoner) meekness under insult; preached (still to the commoner, always to the commoner) patience, meanness of spirit, non-resistance under oppression; and she introduced heritable ranks and aristocracies, and taught all the Christian populations of the earth to bow down to them and worship them."

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Ascent of Humanity

"In writing this book, for example, when I steel myself to cover certain material necessary to the book's logical framework, my words come out pedantic and uninspired; my best writing comes when I'm "playing around" with the ideas, and in this play a logic and structure emerges that is far more potent than anything I could have thought up beforehand. I imagine Thomas Edison doing the same kind of thing, puttering around in his lab, trying this and that with no guarantee of success but in the process thinking of a new idea, trying it out. I imagine Albert Einstein, trying out,, just for his fun and delight, ideas in physics that must have seemed crazy at first, but not caring, exploring them anyway. I don't mean to compare myself to these geniuses, only to illustrate a principle of creativity: forgetting about what has been done before, what will work, what brings secure results, and trying something else for the fun of it."

4 comentarii:

  1. O noua cultura "tribala" pentru toti?

    Toti, toti?

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  2. Da toti. O sa apara de la sine oricum. Mad Max pentru inceput. Posibil ca dupa aia civilizatia sa nu mai apara. Prin 2100.

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  3. Adica "civilizatie" in sensul bani, proprietate, sclavi, saracie spirituala, relatia cu natura. Miturile acelea care apar, cautam un sens, de aici apare animismul. Cand apar religiile astea noi - distrug tot.

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